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germanturkey · Sep 11, 2008, 05:43 AM // 05:43

whats the new tonic?

zwei2stein · Sep 11, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18

[email protected] now people will use it again (or will they?) and be wonderful high-end minion masters.

Mouse at Large · Sep 11, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22

Nice update. At last Anet have cottoned on to what we have known for ages - Energy Storage as a primary was meh.

Make more Ele skills effects linked to ES

Wenspire · Sep 11, 2008, 06:32 AM // 06:32

UA is capable in rezzing two party members to full life/EN in under five seconds for a cost of 5EN. Also allows an extra skill in bar since it functions as a res. It has it's benefits.

Turbobusa · Sep 11, 2008, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Very, very good update.

Altho there used to be a 10% sacrifice triggering masochism, in a weird way it cost less before.

Lord of kryta · Sep 11, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

New Tonic -
Everlasting Macabre Tonic http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Everl..._Macabre_Tonic

FengShuiDove · Sep 11, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

UA is not bad. Increased healing is better than Healer's Boon, but without the casting speed boost. What makes it even nicer, is it removes the need to carry a rez. In fact, the rez is 100% health and energy, and moves the target to safety. Not sure why people view this as bad, but I still find is an amazing elite, and use it more than HB now.

This. Stronger (and more universal) healing potential than HB, removes the need for a res.

Also, UA = Rebirth? Hardly. Full health and energy still and a QUICKER RES TIME than Rebirth. If you're good, you can run in, pull UA, and back out in any situation that's possible to be recovered from.

It'll still be on my Monk's bar. It's no longer imbalanced but it's still a solid skill. Would radar range be nice? Sure, but the skill is not dead unless you're one of those folks who stop using a skill because of the nerf, regardless of the nerf.

Order of Undeath revert is all sorts of win. Thank you.

N1ghtstalker · Sep 11, 2008, 06:54 AM // 06:54

okay so i'm at school and had a chance to look better at it
i like order of undeath now, it's better now
master of magic is kinkeh, gonna use it sometimes lol
glowing gaze and all those others = hawt
and i haz my mind blast back <3
'n well
i'm just glad i finally got meh prediction points so when i come home i'll rapidly jump on the pc and get em!

EPO Bot · Sep 11, 2008, 07:17 AM // 07:17

I will still use UA for 16 DF divine healing+heavens delight builds.

Rezzing people wile on the moon was ridiculous.

garethporlest18 · Sep 11, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

Um I don't know why you guys say UA rezzes at full energy, from my tests it rezzes at the energy the person has before they died. But okay whatever.

Kills a couple good ways to make money, since some of us have Assassins in our guild that die more than survive while VS running

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Don't really care about anything else.

Faure · Sep 11, 2008, 07:30 AM // 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe L.

Not a very creative solution to nerf the VS run. UA is now essentially an elite rebirth. The added healing percentage doesn't really make up for the -1 energy regen, that is what Healers Boon is for.

The Ele skill changes could go both ways. Clone skills is just lazy, and though very usefull, do eles really need more energy management?

You fail to see the changes for ele? These skills always were like that (energy return at certain conditions). Now they just don't give as much as they used to, unless you have 12 in Energy Storage. To prevent the Fast cast snare from getting too much energy.

I like it, i hated to play fc snare :+, or to play dom mesmer against a fc snare.

Sleeper Service · Sep 11, 2008, 07:52 AM // 07:52

OoU is back to its original thats cool...its good to have seen them try something drastically different though.

personally i think that it should affect all minion allies...or even all undead within earshot. *shrugs*

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is it just me or has this update been deployed really early?

Lycan Nibbler · Sep 11, 2008, 08:00 AM // 08:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

You know, I knew something was up, I just didn't know what. The whole High End forum is 98328232 frog scepters, heh.

lol +1 I was the same.. dont play enough pve these days to be in the know

FengShuiDove · Sep 11, 2008, 08:12 AM // 08:12

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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service

is it just me or has this update been deployed really early?

I was under the impression that there would be a ginormous update this week. Could be they just wanted to take care of some exploit issues that they've been pondering on and then release the big one tomorrow.

But that could be just wishful thinking. Either way I'm pretty happy with Tourney Points and some of the skill updates.

kvndoom · Sep 11, 2008, 08:16 AM // 08:16

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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

I was under the impression that there would be a ginormous update this week. Could be they just wanted to take care of some exploit issues that they've been pondering on and then release the big one tomorrow.

But that could be just wishful thinking. Either way I'm pretty happy with Tourney Points and some of the skill updates.

Updates are usually on Thursday. But I have a feeling they decided it wouldn't be "politically correct" to release a patch on 9/11. Don't get your hopes up for anything else until next month's limp-wristed update that fixes 1/20th of this game's problems.

Wildi · Sep 11, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

boring update

N1ghtstalker · Sep 11, 2008, 08:55 AM // 08:55

nye k
ain't that bad now i've seen it closer on a real size pic
it's different

Mangione · Sep 11, 2008, 09:03 AM // 09:03

Quite nice update.

Only thing I don't like is the UA change.
The range was too big before the update, now is too small...
Radar Range (just for PVE) would be good.

Nanood · Sep 11, 2008, 09:03 AM // 09:03

Been doing some testing with UA cause I thought that casting distance was the aggro ring but having a dead buddy at the rings edge won't rez.

+1 vote to make it within radar range. It sure was overpowered but now it's range seems hard to pick when your trying to use it.

The other skill changes.... Never used them so no comment.

Numa Pompilius · Sep 11, 2008, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Good update. For the ele improved energy management (also when not running fire), and UA was stupidly broken and needed a nerf.

EDIT: /unsigned for radar range for UA, it'd still allow abuse. Maybe spirit range.